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Aug 13, 2023
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The land and the book, moody radio, August 12, 2023 with Dr Charlie Dyer and Jon Gauger.

Question:

Jon Gauger:

Reggie takes us all the way to the end of the bible in the book of Revelation in chapter 5 verse 10 it says " And have made us kings and priests to our God and we shall reign on earth..." but other version he says like the nasb, esv and niv have they instead of us, why is there a difference and to whom it is refering?

Answer from Dr Charlie Dyer:

At 32:04

Summary:

In KJV and NKJV, it can be inferred that when they use "us", they are implying that the 24 elders represent humans, either the church or the church and Israel and in NASB, NIV, it can be inferred that they are implying that the 24 elders are a class of angels.

corrected from "either the church or the church in Israel"

Scripture:

Revelation 5

8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying:

“You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.” -nkjv

8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. -kjv

8 When He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they *sang a new song, saying,

“Worthy are You to take the scroll and to break its seals; for You were slaughtered, and You purchased people for God with Your blood from every tribe, language, people, and nation.

10 You have made them into a kingdom and priests to our God, and they will reign upon the earth.” -nasb

8 And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. 9 And they sang a new song, saying:

“You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation. 10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” -niv

 
 
 

A right heart is a heart which BELIEVES ON CHRIST ALONE for salvation, and in which Christ dwells by faith (Rom. 10:10; Eph. 3:17). It rests all its hopes of pardon and eternal life on Christ’s atonement, Christ’s mediation, and Christ’s intercession. It is sprinkled in Christ’s blood from an evil conscience (Heb. 10:22). It turns to Christ as the compass-needle turns to the north. It looks to Christ for daily peace, mercy, and grace—as the sun-flower looks to the sun. It feeds on Christ for its daily sustenance, as Israel fed on the manna in the wilderness. It sees in Christ a special fitness to supply all its needs and requirements. It leans on Him, hangs on Him, builds on Him, cleaves to Him, as its physician, guardian, husband, and friend.

Romans 10

10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. -nkjv

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. -kjv

10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. -nsab

10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. -niv

Ephesians 3

17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, -nkjv

17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, -kjv

17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, -nasb

17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, -niv

Hebrews 10

22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. -nkjv

22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. -kjv

22 let’s approach God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. -nasb

22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. -niv

source: www.jcryle.info

 
 
 

Open line radio June 17, 2023 hour 2:

Listener:

Why in Matthew 17, it jumps from verse 20 to 22, skipping verse 21?

Dr Michael Rydelnik: At 33:14

Summary:

Matthew 17:14 onwards, it is about the issue of the demon that would not come out. According to Dr Michael Rydelnik, many manuscripts omit verse 21 because the earliest and best manuscripts of the new testament don't have that. Dr Michael Rydelnik says this is because during the early middle ages, people added stuff to the bible. According to Christians who believe in the KJV, they offer a different explanation.

Scripture

Matthew 17

20 So Jesus said to them, “Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you. 21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.” 22 Now while they were staying in Galilee, Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is about to be betrayed into the hands of men, -nkjv

20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

22 And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men: -kjv

20 And He *said to them, “Because of your meager faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.” 22 And while they were gathering together in Galilee, Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be handed over to men; -nasb

20 He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” <21> <a=">a</a>"> 22 When they came together in Galilee, he said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men. -niv

Footnotes

a. Matthew 17:21 Some manuscripts include here words similar to Mark 9:29.

 
 
 
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